THE WHOLE ARMOUR OF GOD

June 19, 2009

Armor of God

Hello Everybody;

This blog is dedicated to my Father which is in heaven..My Father’s name is, Jesus Christ, KING OF KINGS & LORD OF LORDS, Praise God, Praise God…

Living for God should be a way of life for those who profess the name, Jesus Christ…There are people in this country, that call them self’s Christians, but their hearts are far from God…I myself am a, Bible believing, one God Apostolic, book of Acts, Christian…

The doctrine that I follow and is taught in my Church goes back to the, Apostles…It is the doctrine of Christ…It was also the beginning of the Christian Church…

We as Christians are to: “PUT ON THE WHOLE ARMOUR OF GOD”

Why do we need to put on the armour of God you might ask..Because without God’s protection, we cannot make it in this world. No time in history has God been needed more than today. The times in which we live in, is the times when,”evil is good and good is evil,” just as the Prophet Isaiah prophesied:

Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

This country even the whole world is in a spiritual battle between good and evil. It is on our televisions, it’s on our radio’s, it’s in our newspapers, it’s on the internet it’s in our workplace, it’s in our schools. Evil is around every corner waiting to sink it’s teeth into God’s children. It is like every demon in hell has been let out. Our president claims to be Christian, but in reality he is, “antichrist”…The bible says that there are many antichrists in the world:

1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

In the book of Ephesians Paul tells the people to:

Eph 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord – Paul had now stated to the Ephesians the duties which they were to perform. He had considered the various relations of life which they sustained, and the obligations resulting from them. He was not unaware that in the discharge of their duties they would need strength from above. He knew that they had great and mighty foes, and that to meet them, they needed to be clothed in the panoply of the Christian soldier. He closes, therefore, by exhorting them to put on all the strength which they could to meet the enemies with which they had to contend; and in the commencement of his exhortation he reminds them that it was only by the strength of the Lord that they could hope for victory.

Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Put on the whole armor of God – The whole description here is derived from the weapons of an ancient soldier. The various parts of those weapons – constituting the “whole panoply” – are specified in Eph 6:14-17. The word rendered “whole armor” ( panoplian, “panoply”), means “complete armor,” offensive and defensive; see Luk 11:22; Rom 13:12 note; 2Co 6:7 note. “The armor of God” is not that which God wears, but that which he has provided for the Christian soldier. The meaning here is:

(1) that we are not to provide in our warfare such weapons as people employ in their contests, but such as God provides; that we are to renounce the weapons which are carnal, and put on such as God has directed for the achievement of the victory.

(2) we are to put on the “whole armor.” We are not to go armed partly with what God has appointed, and partly with such weapons as people use; nor are we to put on “a part” of the armor only, but the “whole” of it. A man needs “all” that armor if he is about to fight the battles of the Lord; and if he lacks “one” of the weapons which God has appointed, defeat may be the consequence.

That ye may be able to stand – The foes are so numerous and mighty, that unless clothed with the divine armor, victory will be impossible.

Against the wiles of the devil – The word rendered “wiles” ( methodeia), means properly that which is traced out with “method;” that which is “methodized;” and then that which is well laid – art, skill, cunning. It occurs in the New Testament only in Eph 4:14, and in this place. It is appropriately rendered here as “wiles,” meaning cunning devices, arts, attempts to delude and destroy us. The wiles “of the devil” are the various arts and stratagems which he employs to drag souls down to perdition.

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood – Greek, “The wrestling to us;” or, “There is not to us a wrestling with flesh and blood.” There is undoubtedly here an allusion to the ancient games of Greece, a part of the exercises in which consisted in wrestling; see the notes on 1Co 9:25-27. The Greek word used here – palē – denotes a “wrestling;” and then a struggle, fight, combat. Here it refers to the struggle or combat which the Christian has to mainrain – the Christian warfare.

Not against flesh and blood – Not with people; see the notes on Gal 1:16. The apostle does not mean to say that Christians had no enemies among men that opposed them, for they were exposed often to fiery persecution; nor that they had nothing to contend with in the carnal and corrupt propensities of their nature, which was true of them then as it is now; but that their main controversy was with the invisible spirits of wickedness that sought to destroy them. They were the source and origin of all their spiritual conflicts, and with them the warfare was to be maintained.

But against principalities – There can be no doubt whatever that the apostle alludes here to evil spirits. Like good angels, they were regarded as divided into ranks and orders, and were supposed to be under the control of one mighty leader; see the notes on >Eph 1:21. It is probable that the allusion here is to the ranks and orders which they sustained before their fall, something like which they may still retain. The word “principalities” refers to principal rulers, or chieftains.

Powers – Those who had power, or to whom the name of “powers” was given. Milton represents Satan as addressing the fallen angels in similar language:
“Thrones, dominations, princedoms, virtues, powers.”

Against the rulers of the darkness of this world – The rulers that preside over the regions of ignorance and sin with which the earth abounds, compare notes on Eph 2:2. “Darkness” is an emblem of ignorance, misery, and sin; and no description could be more accurate than that of representing these malignant spirits as ruling over a dark world. The earth – dark, and wretched and ignorant, and sinful – is just such a dominion as they would choose, or as they would cause; and the degradation and woe of the pagan world are just such as foul and malignant spirits would delight in.

Against spiritual wickedness – Margin, “or wicked spirits.” Literally, “The spiritual things of wickedness;” but the allusion is undoubtedly to evil spirits, and to their influences on earth.

In high places – “in celestial or heavenly places.” The same phrase occurs in >Eph 1:3; Eph 2:6, where it is translated, “in heavenly places.” The word ( epouranios) is used of those that dwell in heaven, Mat 18:35; Phi 2:10; of those who come from heaven, 1Co 15:48; Phi 3:21; of the heavenly bodies, the sun, moon, and stars, 1Co 15:40. Then the neuter plural of the word is used to denote the heavens; and then the “lower” heavens, the sky, the air, represented as the seat of evil spirits; see the notes on >;Eph 2:2. This is the allusion here.

The evil spirits are supposed to occupy the lofty regions of the air, and thence to exert a baleful influence on the affairs of man. What was the origin of this opinion it is not needful here to inquire. No one can “prove,” however, that it is incorrect. It is against such spirits, and all their malignant influences, that Christians are called to contend. In whatever way their power is put forth, whether in the prevalence of vice and error; of superstition and magic arts; of infidelity, atheism, or antinomianism; of evil customs and laws; of pernicious fashions and opinions, or in the corruptions of our own hearts, we are to make war on all these forms of evil, and never to yield in the conflict.

>;Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Wherefore – Because ye have such enemies to contend with, take unto you – assume, as provided and prepared for you, the whole armor of God; which armor if you put on and use, you shall be both invulnerable and immortal. The ancient heroes are fabled to have had armor sent to them by the gods; and even the great armor-maker, Vulcan, was reputed to be a god himself. This was fable: What Paul speaks of is reality. See before on ;Eph 6:11 (note).

That ye may be able to withstand – That ye may not only stand fast in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made you free, but also discomfit all your spiritual foes; and continuing in your ranks, maintain your ground against them, never putting off your armor, but standing always ready prepared to repel any new attack.

And having done all, to stand – And having conquered all, stand: this is a military phrase, and is repeatedly used in this sense by the best Greek writers. “Having in a short time discomfited all our enemies, we returned with numerous captives and much spoil.”By evil day we may understand any time of trouble, affliction, and sore temptation. As there is here allusion to some of the most important parts of the Grecian armor. It consisted properly of two sorts:

1) Defensive armor, or that which protected themselves.

2) Offensive armor, or that by which they injured their enemies. The apostle refers to both.

Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

Stand therefore – Resist every attack – as a soldier does in battle. In what way they were to do this, and how they were to be armed, the apostle proceeds to specify; and in doing it, gives a description of the ancient armor of a soldier.

Having your loins girt about – The “girdle, or sash,” was always with the ancients an important part of their dress, in war as well as in peace. They wore loose, flowing robes; and it became necessary to gird them up when they traveled, or ran, or labored. The girdle was often highly ornamented, and was the place where they carried their money, their sword, their pipe, their writing instruments, etc.; see the notes on Mat 5:38-41. The “girdle” seems sometimes to have been a cincture of iron or steel, and designed to keep every part of the armor in its place, and to gird the soldier on every side.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the truth of God; unless this be known and conscientiously believed no man can enter the spiritual warfare with any advantage or prospect of success. By this alone we discover who our enemies are, and how they come on to attack us; and by this we know where our strength lies; and, as the truth is great, and must prevail, we are to gird ourselves with this against all false religion, and the various winds of doctrine by which cunning men and insidious devils lie in wait to deceive.

The breast-plate of righteousness:

And having on the breast-plate – The word rendered here as “breastplate” thōrax denoted the “cuirass,” Lat.: lorica, or coat of mail; i. e., the armor that covered the body from the neck to the thighs, and consisted of two parts, one covering the front and the other the back. It was made of rings, or in the form of scales, or of plates, so fastened together that they, would be flexible, and yet guard the body from a sword, spear, or arrow. It is referred to in the Scriptures as a “coat of mail” 1Sa 17:5; an “habergeon” Neh 4:16, or as a “breast-plate.”

Of righteousness – Integrity, holiness, purity of life, sincerity of piety. The breast-plate defended the vital parts of the body; and the idea here may be that the integrity of life, and righteousness of character, is as necessary to defend us from the assaults of Satan, as the coat of mail was to preserve the heart from the arrows of an enemy. It was the incorruptible integrity of Job, and, in a higher sense, of the Redeemer himself, that saved them from the temptations of the devil. And it is as true now that no one can successfully meet the power of temptation unless he is righteous, as that a soldier could not defend himself against a foe without such a coat of mail.

Eph 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

That the apostle has obedience to the Gospel in general in view, there can be no doubt; but he appears to have more than this, a readiness to publish the Gospel:
that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! [Isa 52:7; Rom 10:15]. The Israelites were commanded to eat the passover with their feet shod, to show that they were ready for their journey. And our Lord commands his disciples to be shod with sandals, that they might be ready to go and publish the Gospel, as the Israelites were to go to possess the promised land.

Should we take the word preparation in its common acceptation, it may imply that, by a conscientious belief of the Gospel, receiving the salvation provided by its author, and walking in the way of obedience which is pointed out by it, the soul is prepared for the kingdom of heaven. The Gospel is termed the Gospel of peace, because it establishes peace between God and man, and proclaims peace and good will to the universe.

Eph 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

Above all – En pasin. Not “above all” in point of importance or value, but “over” all, as a soldier holds his shield to defend himself. It constitutes a protection over every part of his body, as it can be turned in every direction. The idea is, that as the shield covered or protected the other parts of the armor, so faith had a similar importance in the Christian virtues.

The shield – Isa 21:9. The shield was usually made of light wood. or a rim of brass, and covered with several folds or thicknesses of stout hide, which was preserved by frequent anointing. It was held by the left arm, and was secured by straps, through which the arm passed, as may be seen in the annexed figures. The outer surface of the shield was made more or less rounding. Item the center to the edge, and was polished smooth, or anointed with oil, so that arrows or darts would glance off, or rebound.

Faith is the grace by which all others are preserved and rendered active, so it is properly represented here under the notion of a shield, by which the whole body is covered and protected. Faith, in this place, must mean that evidence of things unseen which every genuine believer has, that God, for Christ’s sake, has blotted out his sins, and by which he is enabled to call God his Father, and feel him to be his portion. It is such an appropriating faith as this which can quench any dart of the devil.

The fiery darts of the wicked, or devil, are evil thoughts, and strong injections, as they are termed, which in the unregenerate inflame the passions, and excite the soul to acts of transgression. While the faith is strong in Christ it acts as a shield to quench these. He who walks so as to feel the witness of God’s Spirit that he is his child, has all evil thoughts in abhorrence; and, though they pass through his mind, they never fix in his passions. They are caught on this shield, blunted, and extinguished.

Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

And take the helmet – The helmet was a cap made of thick leather, or brass, fitted to the head, and was usually crowned with a plume, or crest, as an ornament. Its use was to guard the head from a blow by a sword, or war-club, or battle-axe. The cuts will show its usual form.

Of salvation – That is, “of the hope of salvation;” for so it is expressed in the parallel place in 1Th 5:8. The idea is, that a well-founded hope of salvation will preserve us in the day of spiritual conflict, and will guard us from the blows which an enemy would strike. The helmet defended the head, a vital part; and so the hope of salvation will defend the soul, and keep it from the blows of the enemy.

And the sword – The sword was an essential part of the armor of an ancient soldier. His other weapons were the bow, the spear, or the battle-axe. But, without a sword, no soldier would have regarded himself as well armed. The ancient sword was short, and usually two-edged, and resembled very much a dagger.

Of the Spirit – Which the Holy Spirit furnishes; the truth which he has revealed.

Which is the word of God – What God has spoken – his truth and promises; see the notes on Heb 4:12. It was with this weapon that the Saviour met the tempter in the wilderness; Matt. 4.

We must learn, hence:

(1) That we should study the Bible, that we may understand what the truth is.

(2) we should have texts of Scripture at command, as the Saviour did, to meet the various forms of temptation.

(3) we should not depend on our own reason, or rely on our own wisdom.

A single text of Scripture is better to meet a temptation, than all the philosophy which the world contains. The tempter can reason, and reason plausibly too. But he cannot resist a direct and positive command of the Almighty.

Eph 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

Praying always – It would be well for the soldier who goes forth to battle to pray – to pray for victory; or to pray that he may be prepared for death, should he fall. But soldiers do not often feel the necessity of this. To the Christian soldier, however, it is indispensable. Prayer crowns all lawful efforts with success and gives a victory when nothing else would. This prayer is not to be intermitted. It is to be always. In every temptation and spiritual conflict we are to pray; see notes on Luk 18:1.

With all prayer and supplication – With all kinds of prayer; prayer in the closet, the family, the social meeting, the great assembly; prayer at the usual hours, prayer when we are specially tempted, and when we feel just like praying (see the notes, Mat 6:6) prayer in the form of supplication for ourselves, and in the form of intercession for others. This is, after all, the great weapon of our spiritual armor, and by this we may hope to prevail.

In the Spirit – By the aid of the Holy Spirit; or perhaps it may mean that it is not to be prayer of form merely, but when the spirit and the heart accompany it. The former idea seems, however, to be the correct one.

And watching thereunto – Watching for opportunities to pray; watching for the spirit of prayer; watching against all those things which would hinder prayer; see the Mat 26:38, note, 41, note; compare 1Pe 4:7.

With all perseverance – Never becoming discouraged and disheartened; compare notes, Luk 18:1.

And supplication for all saints – For all Christians. We should do this:

(1) Because they are our brethren – though they may have a different skin, language, or name.

(2) Because, like us, they have hearts prone to evil, and need, with us, the grace of God.

(3) Because nothing tends so much to make us love others and to forget their faults, as to pray for them.

(4) Because the condition of the church is always such that it greatly needs the grace of God. Many Christians have backslidden; many are cold or lukewarm; many are in error; many are conformed to the world; and we should pray that they may become more holy and may devote themselves more to God.

(5) Because each day many a Christian is subjected to some special temptation or trial, and though he may be unknown to us, yet our prayers may benefit him.

(6) Because each day and each night many Christians die. We may reflect each night as we lie down to rest, that while we sleep, some Christians are kept awake by the prospect of death, and are now passing through the dark valley; and each morning we may reflect that “today” some Christian will die, and we should remember them before God.

(7) Because we shall soon die, and it will be a comfort to us if we can remember then that we have often prayed for dying saints, and if we may feel that they are praying for us.

I pray that this will help you in your walk with God. Not everything written here are my thoughts. It sometimes is nice to have someone help in writing and explaining what the scriptures are saying and also the meaning as the Apostles and Prophets have written for the generations throughout to the end of time. I love the word of God, I think primarily because I know what I read in the Bible is of truth, it is of rightousness, it is of God. There is no other truth out there, on earth nor in the heavens above. Just as there is no other God besides Christ nor will there ever be.

Just as it was written in the Old Testament & the New Testament as well:

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Rev 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Joh 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Deu 4:35 Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.

Deu 4:39 Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God

Isa 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

Isa 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
[ Isaiah 44:24 also blows a hole in the trinitarian doctrine about God being a truine god, referring to Genesis 1:26, which says;]

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

It is true that the words, “US” and “OUR” are plural, however, we must remember that the Bible was not in our language when it was written, so the translators, had to translate the Bible into our language so that we might understand what the word of God was saying. Kings and Majestrates used plural words when they spoke to the people, I believe that even our Presidents use plural words when speaking to an audience. But their are only one of them speaking, not two nor three.

This will be for another discussion. May you find comfort in the word of God, May you have a blessed day.

~I AM~

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1) I believe God is God and there is none else besides Him..

There is not, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit(A truine god; trinity)…

I believe God the Father, because the Bible says as much, it does not however, say, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit…The doctrine of the trinity is a man made doctrine, it is false teaching.The doctrine of trinity is a fabrication, it is a lie from hell. The Bible does not teach us trinity, but oneness of God. With the doctrine of trinity, you have three gods. The doctrine of Christ does not teach a truine god, but His doctrine teaches us,”One God”.We must ask ourselves, who is the Father? Who is the Son? Who is the Holy Ghost?

The Prophet Isaiah said it like this;

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

This scripture tells us that, Jesus Christ is The mighty God and it says that Jesus is The everlasting Father. What it does not say is, that there is more than one God.

Isa 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Rev 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Jesus Christ is the great, “I AM’, of the Old Testament and the great, “I AM”, of the New Testament. Therefore, there is only one God. It amazes me that some religions want to take God and separate Him into three, when the Bible teaches oneness. God is multi faceted, God can be where ever He chooses to be. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are not three separate entities, they are merely who God, (Jesus Christ) is.

Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Isa 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

Isa 45:2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:

Isa 45:3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.

Isa 45:4 For Jacob my servant’s sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

Isa 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

Isa 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.

Isa 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.

Isa 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.

Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

1Co 8:4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.

1Co 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

It is also written in the book of;

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

What is the great commandment of the Old Testament & of the New Testament?

The Bible says;

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Mat 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.

Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

These scriptures speak of one God, not two, not three.

Let’s look in the book of John;

Joh 1:1,In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Joh 8:59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Joh 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

That is, by this Logos(In Greek, meaning word).[referring to John 1:1].

In Gen1:1, God is said to have created all things: in this verse, Christ is said to have created all things: the same unerring Spirit spoke in Moses and in the evangelists: therefore Christ and the Father are One. To say that Christ made all things by a delegated power from God is absurd; because the thing is impossible. Creation means causing that to exist that had no previous being: this is evidently a work which can be effected only by omnipotence. Now, God cannot delegate his omnipotence to another: were this possible, he to whom this omnipotence was delegated would, in consequence, become God; and he from whom it was delegated would cease to be such: for it is impossible that there should be two omnipotent beings.

Which brings me back to my previous post about, is Jesus in the Godhead or is the Godhead is Jesus. [John 1:1] speaks the oneness of God.

[John 1:14] tells me that Jesus is created and therefore cannot be co-equal with God or the Holy Ghost because God and the Holy Ghost are spirit[eternal]. Jesus Christ is begotten,something[created]. Jesus Christ is the visible manifestation of the invisible God.

Jesus Christ is fully God and is fully man, inseparable, indivisible, unconfused and unchangeable.

Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Mat 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

I truly hope and pray that this will help you understand that, God is God and there is none other beside Him. That the only trinity, is in a mans own mind. If you have questions about what I have written, feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer you.

~I AM~

Basic Mormon beliefs are expressed in the “Thirteen Articles of Faith,” which were listed by Joseph Smith when he was asked about the basic beliefs of the Church. [1]

1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.

2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.

3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.

6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.

7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.

8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.

10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.

11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul-We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Hello Everyone;

I would like to take a moment to say that what I write is intended to help the Mormon people, not to belittle them…What I write is to help all men/women to know God better…I will also say, that I do not know all there is about God or His word…I myself am work in process… I truly believe that God didn’t mean for man to know all things about Him, simply because God knows man better than man knows his own self…God knew that if man learned and knew all things, man would become bored, would become uninterested and lose his love for God…

First, If you will notice, of the thirteen articles, they begin with, “We Believe”…

This is their first mistake, God does not care what we think…We are to be obedient children unto Him…God does not owe us a thing, we owe Him…When we as a people begin to mix in what we believe into the word of God, God’s word becomes another doctrine instead of the doctrine of Christ….We must ask ourself’s, what does the word of God say, what does the word of God mean….One way of understanding God is through prayer and fasting…Another way is for the word to be preached to us by our Pastor…We must also read the word for ourselfs to see that our Pastor is indeed preaching the word of God, not his own…

1Co 7:5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

Php 4:6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

Jas 5:15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

Jas 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Secondly, the bible has everything that we need to know about God, and also our greatest adversary, the devil,(satan)…Why would a man need any other book about God? The Mormons believe that their book of Mormons is another testament of Jesus Christ presented to them by a man named, Joseph Smith…There is only one truth out there and it can be found in the B.I.B.L.E…The Bible is dead on with what is happening in the world today…The Bible explains the history of man and the fallen angel, Lucifer…The Bible also tells us about the future of the Church…Jesus Christ and Lucifer were not brothers…Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh…God is eternal, Lucifer was created by God, therefore, the created cannot be equal to the eternal….Besides, there is no bible for what the Mormons believe to be true…

The bible is the inspired written word of God…The bible is God’s thoughts on paper…Now, let me also say that not all bibles are truth…There are bibles where the word of God has been altered, some bibles have taken complete scriptures out of the bible…In the book of Revelations, it warns those who take away from the word or who adds to the word of God…

Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

One such bible is the, “NIV”…It is missing scriptures that were written by men of God…The Mormons say they believe the bible to be true depending on it’s translation correctly, but they also believe in another book they call, the book of Mormons…They say that it is another testament of Jesus Christ…The problem is, that, there is only one book of truth, and that is the “B.I.B.L.E.” The book of Mormons was created by a false prophet,
Joseph Smith….

We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.

What does the bible say about Adam and Eve’s sin, which is the first sin against God….

God’s First commandment:

Gen 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

What happened when Adam and Eve committed the first sin by eating the fruit of the tree that God said not to eat of it…Let’s see what the bible says:

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Gen 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

Gen 3:9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

Gen 3:10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

Gen 3:11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
Gen 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Gen 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

Gen 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

Gen 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

The bible clearly states that because of Adam and Eve’s sin which was committed by them eating from the tree in the garden of Eden that God commanded them not to eat from it, all mankind from that time forward was cursed…Yes we will be judged for our sins that we commit against our God, but it is because of Adam and Eve’s transgression against God’s commandment…This is why when we are born, we are born into sin…Man has a sinful nature about him…

Beliefs about Death and the Afterlife

Mormons believe that all humans who die will live eternally. Their spirits will go to the spirit world, where they will undergo instruction and preparation. Then, “after a time,” there will be the Resurrection, at which time the spirits will be reunited with their bodies forever. [1]

Mormons believe in heaven, which is defined as “the place where God lives and the future home of those who follow Him.” Faithful Mormons and their families will live in the presence of God and be rewarded in accordance with what they have done during their lives. [2]

Joseph Smith also taught that families can live together forever in heaven if they are “sealed” through special temple ceremonies. [3]

What about non-Mormons? “Those who choose not to follow our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ will receive a reward according to what they have done in this life, but they will not enjoy the glory of living in the presence of God.” [4]

Mormons do believe in hell. Those who did not repent while on Earth will experience a temporary hell after death (during the time that all spirits go to the spirit world before the Resurrection), but will have an opportunity to repent afterwards and avoid the eternal hell. Hell as an eternal place of misery it is inhabited only by Satan and those who explicitly reject “the Heavenly Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost” even after the period of instruction after death. [5]

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

The Mormons are correct in believing that our souls shall live for an eternity…Our souls shall either dwell in God’s kingdom or in hell, there is no inbetween, there is no purgatory…If a man/woman does not Repent, be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and receive the gift of the Holy Ghost before the coming of the Lord, there will be no more chances to be saved, so, let’s see what the bible says:

Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

In Jesus own words, if a man/woman is not born again of the water and of the Spirit, he/she will not even see the kingdom of God…Jesus did not say that when we die we will go to a spirit world and have another opportunity to get right with God…We only have one chance and that is here on earth before the Lord comes…

There are Four steps unto salavtion:

1) Believe

2) Repent

3) Baptize

4) Receive the Holy Ghost

And that is biblical salvation….This is God’s plan of salvation, not mans….

As far as receiving instruction in the spirit world, that is false, we receive instructions here on earth, that is why we have His word, “the “B.I.B.L.E.”, to show us the way unto His kingdom…The Lord is coming to pass judgment upon all man, living and the dead….Once God judges us, that is when we will meet our fate, whether it be heaven or hell…Although, I believe that when a man/woman is close to death, they will know where they are going, but that is only my belief…God does not label us Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Catholics, Baptists, Methodist, lutherans, ect…God looks at us as His children,(those who follow righteousness and holiness), but those who follow workings of evilness and iniquity are none of His…

Man/woman will not enter into the kingdom God because of what we have done here on earth…No manner of work will get us into heaven, man could not do enough works to enter God’s kingdom…We will abide with God in His kingdom only by being obedient unto His word, by His commandments & laws that He set forth for us…We must be holy, for He is holy….Jesus Christ has one plan of salvation, which can be found in the book of Acts when the first church was formed:

Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

There is no other way that a man/woman can be saved except that they follow the word of God…These scriptures goes against popular belief among other religions….

Godhead, Not Trinity

Unlike Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant Christianity, Mormonism does not include belief in a Trinity, in which the one God consists of three persons. Instead, Mormons believe that the “Godhead” is made up of three distinct beings who are “one in purpose” but not in being. These beings are:

It seems to me Mormons, that you are contradicting your own doctrine….You say that you do not believe in the trinity, but in the same breath, you say that there are three persons…”Which is it, you cannot have both beliefs”…(Referring to one God/three beings)…The bible explains who the godhead is, let’e see what the bible says:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

The prophet Isaiah prophecy tells us Who God is and who Jesus Christ is…They are one pure and simple…There is no gray area here…

Just these scriptures alone explain who God is, and who Jesus Christ is…It also explains who the Holy Ghost is being the Holy Ghost is God’s spirit…. To say that you believe that there is one God and then to say that He consists of three persons, because to say three, is to say trinity, it is just not logical… The bible no where speaks of there even being a trinity…A lot of religions get tripped up on Matt 28:19 which says;

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the [name] of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Jesus commanded the Apostles to baptize in the name, not names…What he says is a singular name, not in the names…The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are merely titles of the one true God…

Question: Can you see a spirit? Of course not…God is a spirit, therefore, He cannot be a person…The Holy Ghost is a spirit, therefore, the Holy Ghost cannot be a person…God and the Holy Ghost are eternal, something not created…God took on the form of a man, Jesus Christ to save the world from it’s sins…(speaking of mankind)…

The Heavenly Father

Like most monotheistic religions, Mormons regard God as the all-powerful, all-good ruler of the universe who also loves and cares for humans. 1

Mormonism is unique, however, in its belief that God has a physical body. This belief is based on several biblical passages – such as those in which Moses speaks to God “face to face” or Stephen sees Jesus standing at the right hand of God – as well as divine revelation to Joseph Smith. 2

Mormons commonly refer to God the Father as “Heavenly Father,” because “he is the Father of our spirits.” 3

My question here is, can you see a spirit? No, of course not…

Can God do all things? Yes He can…

Can God be all places at the same time? Yes He can?

Is God all knowing? (Knowing our thoughts and our hearts) Yes…

God the Father is correct, however, Jesus Christ himself claimed to be the Father in the book of John:

Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Joh 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Joh 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

God is, Omnipresent: Psalm 139:7-13

God is: Omnisient: 1 Corinthians 2:10

God is Omnipotent: Luke 1:35; Romans 15:19

Holy Spirit

For Mormons, the Holy Spirit (or Holy Ghost) is the third person of the Godhead whose special mission is to guide and teach, testify to God, and comfort and sanctify human souls. In these affirmations, Mormonism is in agreement with mainstream Christianity.

Mormonism departs from mainstream Christianity, however, in teaching that the Holy Spirit is a “one in purpose with the Father and the Son, but is a separate being” [1] rather than an aspect of God or part of a Trinity.

Unlike God and Jesus, who have physical bodies, the Holy Spirit is pure spirit and has no body. Joseph Smith wrote that God revealed to him that “the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.” [2]

Here again, can you see a spirit? No… So how can a spirit be a person…The Holy Ghost is God’s spirit, so, we have one, not two, not three…

Luk 3:21 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,

Luk 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

Jesus Christ the man was a sacrifice for all mankind….

Human Nature and the Purpose of Life

Mormons view humans as ultimately spirits, who lived with God as spirits before they were born on earth. God chose a specific time and place for each spirit to come to earth to receive a physical body.

There is no bible for your belief that we were spirits before being born upon the earth…But the bible does say:

Mar 12:19 Master, Moses wrote unto us, If a man’s brother die, and leave his wife behind him, and leave no children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.

Mar 12:20 Now there were seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and dying left no seed.

Mar 12:21 And the second took her, and died, neither left he any seed: and the third likewise.

Mar 12:22 And the seven had her, and left no seed: last of all the woman died also.

Mar 12:23 In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.

Mar 12:24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?

Mar 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

God did this so humans can gain essential experience and prove themselves worthy to return to live with God forever. [1] Thus the purpose of life is to undergo experiences and cultivate virtues that could not be done in heaven as a spirit, and earn the right to return to heaven with God.

As an official Mormon website explains this doctrine:

You didn’t suddenly spring into existence the moment you were born. You were happy in Heavenly Father’s presence, but He knew that you needed more in order to progress. You did not have a physical body like you do now, and you needed a chance to gain experience on your own—away from His presence, but with the ability to communicate with Him and receive help. So He sent you to Earth, hoping that you would return to Him and receive everything He has to offer you. Before you were born, you lived with your Heavenly Father as one of His beloved spirit children. You knew and loved Him, and He knew and loved you. Although you have forgotten your life before you were born, your Heavenly Father has not. He knows you and loves you. He wants you to come to know and love Him, too. [2]

Your right Mormons, we didn’t just spring up into existence, God spoke us into existence…As it is written:

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

In contrast to some Christian denominations that emphasize divine predestination and/or the crippling effects of original sin, Mormons teach that humans have complete free will to do good or evil. [3]

Yes, God gave us free will to do as we choose to do…

Children are regarded as free of sin and incapable of sinning until the age of 8, when they become accountable. [4]

As far as what is our purpose here…God said that our purpose is to be His servant so that He can work through us and do mighty works so that the world can witiness God’s power…we are also created to praise and to worship our Lord….God told us in the book of Mark:

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Deu 6:6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

Deu 6:7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

Jdg 5:2 Praise ye the LORD for the avenging of Israel, when the people willingly offered themselves.

Deu 10:21 He is thy praise, and he is thy God, that hath done for thee these great and terrible things, which thine eyes have seen.

Isa 12:1 And in that day thou shalt say, O LORD, I will praise thee: though thou wast angry with me, thine anger is turned away, and thou comfortedst me.

Isa 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.

Isa 12:3 Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation.]

Isa 12:4 And in that day shall ye say, Praise the LORD, call upon his name, declare his doings among the people, make mention that his name is exalted.

Isa 12:5 Sing unto the LORD; for he hath done excellent things: this is known in all the earth.

Isa 12:6 Cry out and shout, thou inhabitant of Zion: for great is the Holy One of Israel in the midst of thee.

Isa 25:1 O LORD, thou art my God; I will exalt thee, I will praise thy name; for thou hast done wonderful things; thy counsels of old are faithfulness and truth.

Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

A child is accountable as soon as they know right from wrong, as soon as they can understand that doing wrong is a sin and that it is wrong in the eye’s of God…There is no age limit, some learn faster than others, some slower than others….You will not find anything about accountablity in the bible about children, but one can use his or her common sense to the fact, that if a child cannot repent for something that they do not understand, then they cannot be held accountable in the eye’s of the Lord…No repentence, no salvation, no baptism, no salvation, not filled with the Holy Ghost, no salvation…

We are not yet spirits, we will not be spirits until, the flesh dies…We will be as angels…

Jesus Christ

Mormon faith centers on Jesus Christ. Mormons hold many beliefs about Christ in common with Catholics and Protestants, such as Christ as Son of God, Christ as Savior of humanity, Christ’s existence before his birth, Christ predicted by prophets before his birth, the Virgin Birth, the reality of the Crucifixion, and the bodily Resurrection of Christ. [1]

However, Mormons do not agree with mainstream Christians that Jesus is the eternal Word of God or God himself. In Mormon belief, Jesus was a created spirit and “son of God” before being given a physical body, just like all humans. In the Mormon text “Book of Moses,” Satan and Jesus contend for the privilege of taking a body of flesh in order to become the redeemer, with Jesus winning the contest. The spirit of Jesus was then given a body through the Virgin Birth to Mary in Bethlehem. [2]

Something eternal is not created…Something created, is you and I…

Refer to John 1:1,14 1 Timothy 3:16

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh….The bible says as much…

Salvation

Because Mormons believe that we originally lived with God as spirits before being sent to this world (see Human Nature), salvation in Mormonism means returning to God after this life.

Mormons believe salvation is attained through a combination of faith in the Atonement of Christ and good works, with emphasis on the good works:

“If you are to return to live with God eternally, you must keep His commandments, accept Jesus Christ’s Atonement, and follow His example while you are on Earth.” [1]

“We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel…. [the] ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost” [2]

Not all man shall be saved, this is why hell is enlarging herself:

Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

To summarize these and other Mormon statements, salvation can be achieved by:

* believing in God and Jesus
* doing good (being kind, fair, loving, etc.)
* developing moral character
* repenting of sins and attaining forgiveness through the Atonement of Christ
* being baptized and participating in other Mormon ordinances
* spreading the Mormon faith [3]

Beliefs and Practices Overview

Latter-day Saints are distinguished especially by:

* Active proselytizing by full-time volunteer missionaries
* Belief in modern prophets, beginning with Joseph Smith, Jr., and continuing today with Gordon B. Hinckley
* Acceptance of the Bible, the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and The Pearl of Great Price as works of scripture
* A dietary code called the Word of Wisdom, currently requiring abstinence from alcohol, tobacco, coffee, tea, and illegal drugs; caffeinated soft drinks are left to individual discretion.
* Belief in God the Father, the Son (Christ), and the Holy Ghost existing as three separate individual beings or personages
* Belief in a form of theosis called exaltation or eternal progression
* Formerly practicing polygamy (plural marriage)
* Wearing ceremonial temple garments under their daily clothes
* Performing baptisms for the dead, and other ordinances by proxy, in temples and doing attendant genealogical research.

Facts and Stats on Mormonism

Founder
Joseph Smith
Date founded
April 6, 1830
Place founded
Fayette, New York, USA
Modern headquarters
Salt Lake Ciy, Utah, USA
Adherents
12.2 million worldwide, more than half outside the USA
Sacred texts
Christian Bible, The Book of Mormon, Doctrines & Covenants
Leadership
Bishops, First President, Quorom of the Twelve Apostles
Places of worship
Temple, church

To the Mormon people and to those whom might read this post…Get your bible out and read it for yourself and pray and ask God to enlighten you so that you may understand His word…With that said, we need a Pastor to preach the word of God to us or how else can we learn…Like I said earlier, I am also work in process, there is much more that I need to know, much more growing in the Lord and His word that I need and must do…My salvation is to important not to strive to know and to do for God…Amen…

~May God Bless~

Hello everyone;

Ran across this article about the Ark of the Covenant and the possibility of where it might be located…The Bible clearly tells us where it is…

Long pondered by the community of Biblical scholarship, the rest of the world began considering this question with the release of the hit motion picture “Raiders of the Lost Ark.” Today there are no lack of possibilities.

Based on ancient Jewish writings, some have suggested the Ark is hidden on Mount Nebo on the Jordan River’s east bank. This site is presently in the modern nation of Jordan with no hint of the Ark’s presence.

Others suggest the Ark is hidden somewhere near the Dead Sea, on the Jordan’s west bank. This location is usually considered in association with the ancient site of Qumran and the people of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Here, the Ark and other artifacts are believed buried in one of the region’s caves, like the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Another view suggests the Ark is located beneath Jerusalem, in a stone-carved tunnel. Some say it is beneath the suggested site of the Crucifixion, Gordon’s Calvary. The Temple Institute in Jerusalem’s Old City, an Ultra-Orthodox organization dedicated to rebuilding the Jewish Temple, says the Ark is under the temple mount and will be revealed at the proper time—when the temple is rebuilt.

Interestingly, the thesis of the “Raiders of the Lost Ark,” that the Ark was taken from the Temple by Egyptian Pharaoh Shishak is not a popular view today. This may be due to the lack of traditions suggesting the Ark’s presence at the mouth of the Nile, in Lower Egypt.

A view which has received little attention until the past decade has now been popularized by a recent book. The Sign and the Seal: The Quest for the Lost Ark of the Covenant, by British journalist Graham Hancock, has almost reached best-seller status and captured the imagination of the general public. According to this view, the Ark of the Covenant was taken from ancient Jerusalem in the days of King Solomon. While there are numerous variations of the story, the common thread centers on a son fathered by Israelite King Solomon and born to the Queen of Sheba. While this union is not mentioned in the Biblical account of the meeting between these two monarchs (1 Kings 10), it has a long tradition in Ethiopia, a suggested location of ancient Sheba.

This son, named Menelik, is said to have brought the Ark to his country for safe keeping, according to an account preserved in the Ethiopian royal chronicles. This story has also been boosted by the now famous Black Jews of Ethiopia, the Falashas. These black Africans, practicing a very ancient form of Judaism, received international attention when an Israeli military action airlifted them to freedom from political persecution in 1976.
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The Associates for Biblical Research have not been involved in any efforts to retrieve the Ark. Obviously, it would be one of the greatest artifacts of all time. But archaeology is not a treasure hunt, and the Bible does not need the recovered Ark to be proved accurate

The Ark of the Covenant dwells within God’s children…Not all mankind is God’s children, just as not all mankind will be saved…This is why hell is enlarging itself, to make room for the disobedient, for the workers of iniquity…

~LATER~

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Superbug linked to homosexual behavior ‘Society hasn’t learned from the AIDS pandemic’
Posted: January 15, 2008
8:30 p.m. Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com

Eerily reminiscent of reports a quarter century ago of the rapidly spreading AIDS epidemic, a new variety of staphylococcus bacteria, highly resistant to antibiotics, is now spreading among homosexual males in San Francisco, Boston, New York and Los Angeles, according to a new report in the Annals of Internal Medicine.

“Wake up, medical and political establishment: Homosexual behavior is unhealthy – no matter how many secular sermons you preach against ‘homophobia,'” wrote Peter LaBarbera in a statement on the Americans for Truth About Homosexuality website.

“Due to liberal political correctness, which insists on treating aberrant – even deadly – behaviors and lifestyles as a ‘civil right,’ we as a society don’t seem to have learned much from the AIDS pandemic,” he said.

He called it an “eerie reminder” of the first stories about AIDS. “It is unfathomable that after that plague, disease specialists and the media are now surprised at the correlation of a new infection with homosexual behavior,” he said.

The study noted that cases were found in the highest concentrations in and around San Francisco’s Castro district and in patients who visit health clinics that treat HIV infections in homosexuals in Boston and San Francisco.

The bacteria is called methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, and has been seen previously in hospitalized patients. However over the last few years, researchers said its impact has expanded, with a strain called USA300 now being documented as an exceptionally drug-resistant variant.

The bacteria is resistant to six common antibiotics, and the study revealed that nearly 1 in 500 residents in San Francisco’s Castro neighborhood is infected. The risk homosexuals will contract it is 13 times greater than the rest of the city’s population.

“We probably had it here first, and now it is spreading elsewhere,” Binh An Deip, the report’s lead author, told the San Francisco Chronicle. “This is a national problem, and San Francisco is at the epicenter.”

The infection causes boils and other infections but the report said what is unusual is that up to 40 percent of the infections occur in the buttocks and genitalia.

“Data … suggest that multidrug-resistant USA300 has spread rapidly among men who have sex with men in San Francisco and Boston, and that having male-male sex seems to be a risk factor…,” the report said.

The report also warned that because of the “patterns of increased sexual risk behaviors” among homosexuals, largely because of a carelessness that has resulted from “the availability of potent antiretroviral therapy” to treat HIV, there also has been an accompanying resurgence in early syphilis, rectal gonorrhea and new HIV infections among the homosexual populations studied.

Some cases even have developed into “necrotizing fascitis,” the so-called “flesh-eating” disease because of its quick progression that often requires surgery, or amputation, to halt its progress, the report said.

“It is not clear whether the behavior potentiating these infections among men who have sex with men is anal sex …, skin-abrading sexual practices, or increased frequency of intimate skin-to-skin contact; prevention messages may therefore need to suggest caution in each of these practices,” the report said.

LaBarbera said the following questions need to be answered urgently:

* Why aren’t all schoolchildren being taught that there are special health risks associated with homosexual behavior and that they should “just say no” to homosexuality?
* Why won’t the news media make the common-sense connection between these frequent stories about (male) homosexual behavior and disease – to the idea that perhaps it’s probably not smart for society and pop culture to celebrate homosexuality and bisexuality?;
* Why isn’t there a concerted government effort – akin to the current anti-smoking campaigns – to reign in homosexual promiscuity – beginning with closing down all sex businesses (bathhouses) that facilitate homosexual perversion?

He noted just one reader comment in the Chronicle:

“We as a species just don’t seem to get it: There are consequences to behavior!” wrote luvgabe. “We no longer take AIDS seriously anymore because of drug treatment, so we go back to doing the same behavior, which brings on a new epidemic that now threatens to jump the boundary to become a hetero scourge as well.”

The report noted the bacteria resists “several important antimicrobial classes for treatment … including clindamycin, tetracycline, and mupirocin.” It actually fails to respond significantly to erythromycin, Cipro-like antibiotics and drugs in the penicillin family, too.

Of the antibiotics still available in the battle, the study warns, “prudent use … for suspected MRSA disease in men who have sex with men is advisable to slow the emergence of even more resistant community-associated MRSA.”

The federal Centers for Disease Control documents that various forms of MRSA are costing 19,000 lives annually in the United States already.

The study estimated some 200 cases of the new bacterial variant are developing in San Francisco annually, mostly among homosexuals.

“We are nowhere near the peak,” Diep told the newspaper.

Matt Barber, policy director for cultural issues with Concerned Women for America, said society has adopted a lassez faire attitude toward such sexual behaviors.

“Television shows like Will and Grace glorify the homosexual lifestyle while our children are taught in schools that homosexuality is a perfectly healthy, alternative sexual ‘orientation.’ ‘Stay out of our bedrooms!’ we’re often commanded by militant ‘gay’ activists,” he said. “Well, now the dangerous and possibly deadly consequence of what occurs in those bedrooms is spilling over into the general population. It’s not only frightening, it’s infuriating.

“Citizens, especially parents, need to stand up and say, ‘No More! We will no longer sit idly by while politically correct cultural elites endanger our children and larger communities through propagandist promotion of this demonstrably deadly lifestyle,'” he said.

Hello Everyone;

It is sad to see a child dying of a disease that they had no control over,”AIDS”….

Well, I would like to say that I feel sorry for the Queers being infected with this new strain of bacteria that is causing them discomfort, however, that would be a lie…This is just another plague brought upon them for their sick, perverted and disgusting lifestyle…Faggot’s have slapped and mocked God far to long now, and God has said Okay, you want to go against my laws and my commandments and go after your own lusts, well so be it, you have your way,(Just like Burger King) and I will bring a plague upon this people for their continued disobedience….The Lord will not force us to live for Him, He will not force us to abide by His laws and commandments that He set forth….

God will let us have our own way, however, there is a price that we must pay for being disobedient, just as it says in the book of Romans:

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them.

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:

Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.

Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

God called you fool’s for thinking that you are wise….Your disobedience and proud spirit have gotten you turned over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are inconvenient, (which means diseases of the ole poop shoot, flesh eating viruses, ect.)…Oh, I know, you think that I am being judgmental, that I am intolerant, but I say, it is the word of God that judges you, not me…I am not here to judge, but to spread His beautiful gospel…Why are Christians being labeled intolerant, when the fact is that your intolerant to Christians for our belief in God and His gospel…If we must put up with your Faggotness, then you going to have to put up with our preaching the word of God, just as He commanded His children to do….

His word also says:

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

2Co 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

LUSTS OF THE FLESH:

Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT:

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

There are some out there that are also involved with fornication which is also against God’s laws and commandments…In God’s eyes, it is a sin caused by the lust of the flesh….Aids does not discriminate against the color of our skin or the country or nation that we live in…Diseases like flesh eating viruses do not discriminate against who we are….Fornication is sin, and sin leads to death,(death of the flesh as well as the spirit)….Here are some scriptures on what God thinks about fornication:

Lev 19:20 And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a bondmaid, betrothed to a husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her; she shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death, because she was not free.

Exo 22:16 And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife.

Exo 22:17 If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.

Num 25:1 And Israel abode in Shittim, and the people began to commit whoredom with the daughters of Moab.

Num 25:2 And they called the people unto the sacrifices of their gods: and the people did eat, and bowed down to their gods.

Num 25:3 And Israel joined himself unto Baal-peor: and the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel.

Num 25:4 And the LORD said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.

Num 25:5 And Moses said unto the judges of Israel, Slay ye every one his men that were joined unto Baal-peor.

Deu 22:21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father’s house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.

Deu 22:22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to a husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.

Deu 22:23 If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto a husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;

Deu 22:24 Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbor’s wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.

Deu 22:25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die:

Act 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

1Co 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:

1Co 5:10 Yet not altogether the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.

1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one no not to eat.

1Co 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

2Co 12:21 And lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed.

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

Eph 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God as dear children:

Eph 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savor.

Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

There are some out there that believe that because we live under grace today, that the laws of Moses do not apply in todays world, that these are different times now and God’s word doesn’t mean the same thing that it meant in the Old Testament days….

However, the bible says that God is an unchanging God, that He is the same yesterday and, today and forever….The bible also says that God’s word shall stand forever…

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

Rom 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

In other words, we live under grace today by the mercy of Jesus Christ…God manifest his self in the flesh and made him self a sacrifice for our sins so that we may live, (providing we obey His word)….Now with that said, because we live under grace and not the law, does that make the law of none effect, No, of course not…Grace is instruction, it enforces the laws that were given unto us by God through Moses…And no, we do not perform the ceremonial laws, (sacrifices of animals) that the children of Israel performed for the sins they committed….In the New Testament, the Lord Jesus Christ is the sacrifice made for us, therefore, His laws and commandments are still in force by His grace…In the Old Testament, they were under the Mosaic laws of of God in which they sacrificed animals for their sins, which the sins were still ever before them, wherefore ares are washed away by the Blood of the Lamb, (Jesus Christ)….

There are others that believe that we are once-saved-always-saved, however, that is not biblically correct, because nowhere in the bible does it say that once we are saved, we are always saved, it says quite the contrary….That will be a discussion for another post….

HOMOSEXODUS!
War over indoctrination moves to initiative arena
Pro-family groups seeking to overturn ‘gay’ mandates
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Posted: January 11, 2008
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com

The battle in California over a new state law that would mandate a positive – and no other – portrayal of bisexuals, homosexuals, transgenders and others choosing alternative sexual lifestyles in public schools has moved into a campaign for an initiative.

Officials with Save Our Kids made the announcement yesterday after confirming that their effort to obtain 434,000 signatures for a referendum fell short, coming up with 350,000 names.

“For a completely volunteer-driven campaign to obtain this number of signatures is unheard of,” said Karen England, director of the Save Our Kids campaign, and executive director of Capitol Resource Family Impact.

“We had to overcome incredible difficulties during our signature gathering, including the holidays, and the results are astonishing,” she said.

However, the state requirement of 434,000 valid voter signatures for a referendum addressing SB 777 to be put on the 2008 election ballots means the campaign now will begin addressing the requirements for an initiative.

“While we didn’t reach the threshold of required signatures, we have surprised political observers with the amazing amount of signatures we gathered in just 70 days. It is unheard of for a volunteer-only effort to find this kind of support, especially in a state as large as California.”

She said the high level of support that is apparent prompted the group to file an initiative with the state attorney general to overturn the new law.

“This initiative will give us double the amount of time to gather signatures, while accomplishing the same goal of eliminating the extreme policies of SB 777,” she said. “Many California citizens are just now finding out about SB 777 and are outraged. By filing an initiative, we will give even more citizens the opportunity to voice their anger over the passage of this radical bill.”

Co-chairs of the campaign have included state Sen. George Runner and Assembly members Joel Anderson, Bob Huff, Doug La Malfa, Sharon Runner, Audra Strickland as well as legislative candidates Dennis Mountjoy, Larry Dick and Jim Nelson.

Organizations participating in or endorsing the effort have included Focus on the Family, Capitol Resource Institute, California Eagle Forum, California Family Council, Christian Educators Association International, California Republican Assembly, Concerned Women for America-California, Family Leaders Network Pacific Justice Institute and several other prominent groups.

WND has reported that the plan to establish SB777 as state law was supported by organizations recommending homosexual literature to children as young as age 2.

A list of school resources, sponsored by a homosexual-advocacy group called Safe Schools Coalition, suggests that for those who are only two years old, there’s “Felicia’s Favorite Story,” which tells how she was “adopted by her two mothers.”

The list also promotes a book called “Are You a Girl or a Boy?” by Karleen Jiminez, a resource for children ages 4-8 when advocating homosexuality, bisexuality, transgenderism and other alternative lifestyle choices.

It’s described as “A sweet book about a gender-different kid.”

Other resources being promoted in light of California’s adoption of SB 777 as state law include books authored by officials for Planned Parenthood and the Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network.

One book, called “Tackling Gay Issues in School,” is for kindergarten through grade 12, and offers a “rationale (for the inclusion of les/bi/gay/trans issues in school).” It features recommended “extracurricular” activities for classes.

The promotion of such materials has coincided with the recent admission by Equality California, a homosexual advocacy group that worked to have SB 777 passed by lawmakers and signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, that the bill really does edit all school curricula in California.

For months while California lawmakers discussed Senate Bill 777, opponents worried about its usefulness in censoring public school curricula to include a pro-homosexual bias. Supporters, however, steadfastly maintained that it only clarified anti-discrimination laws already on the books. They still hold that stance, with recent statements from both Schwarzenegger’s office and Equality California.

Sabrina Lockhart, a spokeswoman for the governor, insisted it is a “technical bill” intended to clarify anti-discriminations laws.

“It simply takes anti-discrimination language used in other areas of [state law] such as employment and puts that in the education code,” she said.

And Ali Bay of Equality California told WND the new law “doesn’t require that any specific curriculum be included in California’s classrooms.”

Technically it is correct that the law doesn’t “require inclusion.” But opponents say it does now ban anything that can be “perceived” as being discriminatory, up to and including references to “mom” and “dad” or “husband” and “wife.”

“The terms ‘mom and dad’ or ‘husband and wife’ could promote discrimination against homosexuals if a same-sex couple is not also featured,” said Meredith Turney, the legislative liaison for Capitol Resource Institute.

“Parents want the assurance that when their children go to school they will learn the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic – not social indoctrination regarding alternative sexual lifestyles. Now that SB 777 is law, schools will in fact become indoctrination centers for sexual experimentation,” she said.

The new law demands, “No teacher shall give instruction nor shall any school district sponsor any activity that promotes a discriminatory bias because of a characteristic [including perceived gender.]”

“All along, Capitol Resource Family Impact has maintained that the true agenda behind SB 777 is to infuse school curriculum with pro-homosexual, and other controversial lifestyles, propaganda. The proponents of the bill countered that this was not true and the law would merely ‘streamline’ anti-discrimination laws for schools. Based on our 20-year experience with the homosexual lobby, we know that a common tactic is to maintain innocence and then utilize vague language to push a radical agenda. We expected the same of SB 777 and we are already witnessing the same pattern,” England said.

WND already has reported how the Gay Straight Alliance has forwarded instructions to its California chapters with information on how to make sure homosexuality is taught in public schools, and its warning having students and parents simply “tolerate” homosexuality is not enough.

“Tolerance education is an important first step, but we need to push further,” the instructions said. “Infuse LGBTQ curriculum into history, social science, and literature classes,” is the organization’s plan.

WND also has reported how thousands of requests for information about homeschooling and Christian school are bombarding organizations that support those efforts.

A spokeswoman for a ministry called Considering Homeschooling said she already has seen an overwhelming increase in requests for information about homeschooling.

As a result, spokeswoman Denise Kanter told WND that her group is sending out 5,000 DVD packages to churches around the state that include basic “how-to” information to provide parents a direction to turn when they choose to protect their children from the new school agenda.

Another group’s website, Discover Christian Schools, has been getting almost 4,000 visits per day as parents seek alternatives, co-founder Harold Naylor Jr. said.

The non-profit Advocates for Faith and Freedom also has filed a lawsuit challenging a SB 777.

Hello Everybody;

Ran across this article and just had to post it…How much clearer does it have to be to the American people that this Queerness is not going away…I applaud the organizations that are battling this spirit of anti-christ which is trying to take over our youth even as young as two years of age….Now, I wonder why they would want to start teaching two year olds about their perverted lifestyle…Because if they can confuse them when their young, they will not have a clue as to it’s harmful effects to our society because they will think that it is as natural as mom’s apple pie….

If these queer’s want to teach their perverted, putrid, not to mention that it is immoral lifestyle to each other, well let them buy their own piece of land in another part of the world so that we can watch them die off because of the many diseases that will come unto them for their disobedience unto God our Father, not to mention that they are not able to reproduce, which is a good thing….God never meant it to be that way, because if He had, there would have been queer’s in the garden of Eden….Which there were not, Amen!!

This is just another ploy that the devil is using to destroy God’s children…The devil knows his time is short, so he has to be as cunning and deceiving as he can to gain as many souls before our Lord comes back for His children…The devil works through people like Arnold Schwarzenegger’s to gain popularity within a state or city…He is working through the Liberals right now, like, Obama, and Clinton to gain more control over this country….The devil has even brought in the Islamic and Mexican people to confuse and to anger the American people to the point, that they don’t know which way to go or who to vote for….

Our only hope is in our Lord Jesus Christ…

Psa 27:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Now then, if there be any queer’s reading this post, I know what your thinking, that was in the old Testament times, it is not meant for this century….Well, queers’s, I have got a nice surprise for you, God also had it written in the New Testament as well, let’s take a look…

Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:

Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.

Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

This is only a few scriptures out of one book of the New Testament, there are more to dispute your putrid lifestyle…You know, you are slapping my God in the face with your disobedence, and your proud spirit…You may win a battle or two, but, we true Christians shall win the war, it is already written in the Bible…What God said in the Old Testament still stands today in the New Testament, God is unchanging, His word will stand forever…

Hello everyone;

I am starting a blog about false doctrine mainly because I am about truth, I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, and I will pick up my cross and follow my Father, Jesus Christ….Although, there are many false doctrines out there being taught, and I will expose them, it will take many posts to explain each false doctrine out there….This Jehovah Witness doctrine is a classic example of the false teachings being taught to unlearned people(sinners) out there in this world….One of the many mistakes in their doctrine is the name of God which they say is Jehovah, well Jehovah means God, but it is not his name….In the book of:

John 1:1,10,14 (1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God….
(10) He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not…..
(14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth….

Just these three scriptures alone tell me that God and Jesus are one in the same, in other words one God, and his name is Jesus Christ….In the book of:

I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory….

This scripture takes away the mystery of who God is, again his name is Jesus Christ…. And again in the book of:

John 10:30 I and my Father are one….
John 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him….

Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty….

Here again, Jesus Christ himself tells us that He and the Father are one in the same, I don’t know about you,but I cannot deny the word of God….How anybody in there right mind can get the Word confused to mean something else, has been confused from the very beginning….It just doesn’t make since to change or to twist God’s word to mean something totally different….

Now let’s move on; the Jehovah Witness doctrine says that only 144,000 will go to heaven and serve God, however, they didn’t read far enough into the book of:

Rev 7:3-17
(3) Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

(4) And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

(5) Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.

(6) Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.

(7) Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.

(8) Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

(9) After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands.

(10) And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

(11) And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God.

(12) Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

(13) And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

(14) And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

(15) Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

(16) They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.

(17) For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
KJV

From what I read in my bible, yes, there will be 144,000 children from Israel sealed the servants of God, but there will also be a great multitude, an innumerable amount, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, and will stand before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palms in their hands…As the Jehovah Witness would have you believe that the 144,000 are the only ones to go to heaven and be God’s servants, but the bible says otherwise….

Now let’s move on to the Jehovah Witnesses thoughts on the cross, they say Jesus died on a stake and not a cross, however, in my bible it clearly says cross, like in the book of:

Matt 16:24
(24) Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.KJV

Mark 8:34
(34) And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.KJV

Mark 15:21
(21) And they compel one Simon a Cyrenian, who passed by, coming out of the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to bear his cross.KJV

Mark 15:30
(30) Save thyself, and come down from the cross.KJV

Luke 9:23
(23) And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.KJV

Luke 23:26
(26) And as they led him away, they laid hold upon one Simon, a Cyrenian, coming out of the country, and on him they laid the cross, that he might bear it after Jesus.KJV

John 19:25
(25) Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.KJV

1 Cor 1:17-18
(17) For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
(18) For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.KJV

Gal 6:12
(12) As many as desire to make a fair shew in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ.KJV

Matt 27:32-50
(32) And as they came out, they found a man of Cyrene, Simon by name: him they compelled to bear his cross.

(33) And when they were come unto a place called Golgotha, that is to say, a place of a skull.

(34) They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink.

(35) And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.

(36) And sitting down they watched him there;

(37) And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.

(38) Then were there two thieves crucified with him, one on the right hand, and another on the left.

(39) And they that passed by reviled him, wagging their heads.

(40) And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross.

(41) Likewise also the chief priests mocking him, with the scribes and elders, said.

(42) He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.

(43) He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.

(44) The thieves also, which were crucified with him, cast the same in his teeth.

(45) Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.

(46) And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

(47) Some of them that stood there, when they heard that, said, This man calleth for Elias.

(48) And straightway one of them ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink.

(49) The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him.

(50) Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.KJV

For without the cross, without the blood, this would not be possible….There would be no salvation, there wouldn’t be a Saviour…..Our sins were nailed to the cross and to the flesh that day at Calvary….

Now let’s talk about the belief of the Jehovah Witnesses that Christ was the first thing God created, which as it says in the book of:

Gen 1:1-3

(1) In the beginning God created the Heaven and the earth.

(2) And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

(3) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.KJV

There is no biblical scripture of Christ being the first thing created by God, simply because Jesus Christ is God which I already explained earlier….As the scriptures say, the heaven and the earth were the first things created….Because of man making his own doctrine (false doctrine), that is why so many people are lost, when Jesus comes back and he will return for his children, I would not want to go before him and have to explain why I was teaching false doctrine instead of his gospel….It is written in the bible that his word will stand forever, God and his word has never changed, nor will it, as it says in the book of:

Matthew 24: 35
(35) Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away….

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever….

Okay, now let’s talk about the soul, according to Jehovah Witnesses, the soul ceases to exist after we die in the flesh, but I have bible that says different….In the book of:

Ps 33:19-20
(19) To deliver their soul from death, and to keep them alive in famine.

(20) Our soul waiteth for the LORD: he is our help and our shield.KJV

Ps 34:22
(22) The LORD redeemeth the soul of his servants: and none of them that trust in him shall be desolate.KJV

Ps 116:8
(8) For thou hast delivered my soul from death, mine eyes from tears, and my feet from falling.KJV

Ps 119:175
(175) Let my soul live, and it shall praise thee; and let thy judgments help me.KJV

Isa 55:3
(3) Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.KJV

Ezek 18:4
(4) Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.KJV

Matt 10:28
(28) And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.KJV

Matt 16:26
(26) For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?KJV

Mark 8:36-37
(36) For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

(37) Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?KJV

Rom 13:1-2
(1) Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

(2) Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.KJV

1 Thess 5:23
(23) And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.KJV

James 5:20
(20) Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.KJV

As you can see, the soul will live forever, however, it will either spend eternity in heaven with our Father, or in eternal damnation in hell burning forever and ever….The choice is ours, do we live a holy and godly life being obedient unto God, or do we become disobedient children and go to hell…If you are living a life of sin and iniquity, well sin equals death, meaning your soul will go to hell… Oh, and that’s the next thing I will talk about, HELL, is it real?

Jehovah Witnesses believe that hell is in our grave, but that is not biblical…Hell is real just like heaven is real; in the book of:

Deut 32:22
(22) For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.KJV

Ps 9:17
(17) The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.KJV

Ps 55:15
(15) Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.KJV

Ps 139:8
(8) If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.KJV

Acts 2:27
(27) Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.KJV

Isa 28:15
(15) Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:KJV

Isa 28:18
(18) And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.KJV

Matt 5:22
(22) But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.KJV

Matt 5:29
(29) And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.KJV

Matt 5:30
(30) And if thy right hand offend thee, cut if off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.KJV

Matt 10:28
(28) And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.KJV

Matt 16:18
(18) And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.KJV

Matt 23:33
(33) Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?KJV

Luke 16:23
(23) And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.KJV

2 Peter 2:4
(4) For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;KJV

Isa 5:14
(14) Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.KJV

Rev 1:18
(18) I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.KJV

Rev 6:8
(8) And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.KJV

Rev 20:13-15
(13) And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

(14) And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

(15) And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.KJV

Rev 21:8
(8) But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.KJV

Okay, the Jehovah Witnesses say that the earth shall never pass away, but I have scripture that says that it will; in the book of:

2 Peter 3:10
(10) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.KJV

Ps 75:3
(3) The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved: I bear up the pillars of it. Selah.KJV

Isa 24:19
(19) The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.KJV

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were past away; and there was no more sea

SUMMARY:

Well the (JW) believe in one God, however they don’t know what his name is…JW believes that they are the chosen ones, that if your not a JW, then you will not be saved, well, scripture says different, there will be a great multitude of Gentiles which no man can number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues….Folks, you should look up Jehovah Witness doctrine some time and read the history of there religion, and see how it has changed back and forth over the years…. the men that make up the JW religion, change the doctrine as they see fit….Here’s another thing, God said in the book of:

Rev 22:18-19
(18) For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

(19) And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.KJV

So, a man would not want to change the word of God, neither add to, nor take away from the word of God…..Another thing, what is there plan of salvation? I guess they feel that they are the annointed, and are perfect….I think they believe alone the same line as these, Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine of thinking….However, once saved always saved is not biblical, just because you get saved doesn’t mean you automaticly got a ticket into heaven, because we are human and are sinners, we can fall into sin real easy, salvation is freely given us, but it is something worked for, because our spirit is at war with our flesh daily….

Our adversary the devil is like a roaring lion waiting to trip up Gods children…..JW believe in the trinity, well sort of, this is there version of trinity; “Jehovah God” the “Father”, then “Michael the Arch Angel,”aka “Jesus Christ” who is “Jehovah’s Son” and “Jehovah’s creative force”…They do not acknowledge the Holy Ghost, it brings up strong connotations of fear and evil… However, they will claim that Jehovah is the only God…. They try to separate the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost into being persons, number one, there is not three, Father, Son, Holy Ghost, are one, they are titles, not names, all three titles equal JESUS CHRIST, for instance, I am a father, a son, a husband, but my name is Johnnie and there is only one of me, not three….

Number two, God is not a person, but a Spirit….Well I hope and pray that this will help you to understand about the Jehovah Witnesses doctrine (religion)….The men Joey Rutherford and Fred Franz show how man can take the bible and translate it into what there beliefs are and totally take it out of context, Israel is indeed the chosen people of God, however, Gentiles shall be saved to and that is in my bible….It’s really hard to find a closing point on this particular writing because there is so much to discuss, I am concerned for the lost souls out there in the world, I love God, and I love his word (The gospel)….

And it really gets under my skin when people out there teaching, preaching the word of God, changes God’s message, that’s why it is important to read the word of God for yourself, study the word….Well I will close for now, may you have a blessed day….And this is only the beginning, I will expose all false doctrines out there….I am on a mission for God, my heavenly Father…..Obey Acts 2:38 Matthew 28:19 John 3:3-5

“Obey the 10 commandments”

Jehovah’s Witnesses—Who Are They? What Do They Believe?

EARTH . . . created by Jehovah . . . cared for by man . . . inhabited forever
JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES believe in Almighty God, Jehovah, Creator of the heavens and the earth. The very existence of the intricately designed wonders in the universe surrounding us reasonably argues that a supremely intelligent and powerful Creator produced it all. Just as the works of men and women reflect their qualities, so do those of Jehovah God. The Bible tells us that “his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made.” Also, without voice or words, “the heavens are declaring the glory of God.”—

People do not mold clay pots or make television sets and computers without a purpose. The earth and its creations of plant and animal life are far more marvelous. The structure of the human body with its trillions of cells is beyond our understanding—even the brain with which we think is incomprehensibly wonderful! If men have a purpose in bringing forth their comparatively insignificant inventions, surely Jehovah God had a purpose in his awesome creations! “Everything Jehovah has made for his purpose.”

Jehovah made the earth for a purpose, as he stated to the first human pair: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth . . . , have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.” Because they became disobedient, this couple failed to fill the earth with righteous families who would lovingly care for the earth and its plants and animals. But their failure does not make Jehovah’s purpose fail. Thousands of years later, it was written: “God, the Former of the earth . . . , did not create it simply for nothing.” He “formed it even to be inhabited.” It is not to be destroyed, but “the earth endures for ever.” Jehovah’s purpose for the earth will be realized: “My own counsel will stand, and everything that is my delight I shall do.”—
Hence, Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the earth will remain forever and that all people, living and dead, who will fit in with Jehovah’s purpose for a beautified, inhabited earth may live on it forever. All mankind inherited imperfection from Adam and Eve and, hence, are sinners. The Bible tells us: “The wages sin pays is death.” “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all.” “The soul that is sinning—it itself will die.” Then how can they live again to share in the earthly blessings? Only through the ransom sacrifice of Christ Jesus, for he said: “I am the resurrection and the life. He that exercises faith in me, even though he dies, will come to life.” “All those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out.”—
How will this come about? It is explained in “the good news of the kingdom,” which Jesus started to proclaim while on earth. But today Jehovah’s Witnesses are preaching the good news in a very special way.

WHAT JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES BELIEVE
Belief
Scriptural Reason

>Bible is God’s Word and is truth

>Bible is more reliable than tradition

>God’s name is Jehovah

>Christ is God’s Son and is inferior to Him

>Christ was first of God’s creations

>Christ died on a stake, not a cross

>Christ’s human life was paid as a ransom for obedient humans

>Christ’s one sacrifice was sufficient

>Christ was raised from the dead as an immortal spirit person

>Christ’s presence is in spirit

>We are now in the ‘time of the end’

>Kingdom under Christ will rule earth in righteousness and peace

>Kingdom will bring ideal living conditions to earth

>Earth will never be destroyed or depopulated

>God will eliminate present system of things in the battle at Har-Magedon

>Wicked will be eternally destroyed

>People God approves will receive everlasting life

>There is only one road to life

>Human death is due to Adam’s sin

>The human soul ceases to exist at death

>Hell is mankind’s common grave

>Hope for dead is resurrection

>Adamic death will cease

>Only a little flock of 144,000 go to heaven and rule with Christ

>The 144,000 are born again as spiritual sons of God

>New covenant is made with spiritual Israel

>Christ’s congregation is built upon himself

>Prayers are to be directed only to Jehovah through Christ

>Images should not be used in worship

>Spiritism must be shunned

>Satan is invisible ruler of world

>A Christian ought to have no part in interfaith movements

>A Christian should keep separate from world

>Obey human laws that do not conflict with God’s laws

>Taking blood into body through mouth or veins violates God’s laws

>Bible’s laws on morals must be obeyed

>Sabbath observance was given only to Israel and ended with Mosaic Law

>A clergy class and special titles are improper

>Man did not evolve but was created

>Christ set example that must be followed in serving God

>Baptism by complete immersion symbolizes dedication

>Christians gladly give public testimony to Scriptural truth

undergod01.jpgHello Everyone;

I was sitting here wondering what I could write about today, and the thought came to me, How many people know who God is…I mean, how many people know His name and why He came here to earth…We are entering a season in which we offer up our thanksgiving unto to the “King of Kings, and the Lord of Lords”

Nobody knows for sure when Jesus was born, however, man has chosen this month and the day(25th of December) to glorify Jesus Christ our Saviour, our Lord…

How many people out there know what the Gospel means?

How many people out there understand the plan of Salvation that the Lord our God commanded us to follow or we would not even see Heaven?

Many people out there are being taught that all you have to do is accept Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour and your saved, however, that is not what the word of God teaches His children, it is not biblical…God’s word does teach us however, what we must do in order to be saved…

Jesus Christ’s commandment:

John 3:3-7

3) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, Verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God…

4) Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?

5) Jesus answered, Verily, Verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of the water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God…

6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit….

7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again…

And in the book of Acts it also so gives the plan of salvation:
Israel is asking what they must do in order to be saved:

Acts 2:38

38) Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall received the gift of the Holy Ghost…(This is a promise from Jesus Christ for his people)

The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of Christ….

There are false religions out there teaching the Trinity, meaning that there are, Two or three God’s, which is also not biblical, it is not in the bible…The bible does teach us the oneness of God and that He is a jealous God…God created the heavens and earth all by Himself….There are no other God’s, He knows not one…

Some religions out there say that there is, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost; which is also not biblical, again it is man made doctrine, not the doctrine of Christ…(However, it does say, God the Father)

Matthew 28:19

19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and of the Holy Ghost….

Some say, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost is proof that there is more than one, that there are three…What they don’t understand is the scripture above is saying in the (name), not names…The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are merly titles of the one true God, Jesus Christ….The trinity is not biblical, it is a man made doctrine, we must go by the gospel of Christ, not man…

As it says in the book of:

Psalm 116:11

11) I said in my haste, All men are liars…

Romans 3:4

4) God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest overcome when thou art judged…

This is why it is important to open the bible and read and study the scriptures as God has written them…To many men/women have perverted the gospel into what makes them comfortable according to their lifestyle and this is where false doctrine comes in….With that said, I am not saying that we don’t need a Pastor to preach the word to us because how else will we learn, we must try the spirits…We must know and understand what God is telling us, what His laws and commandments instruct us to do, to conduct our lives by, how we must treat each other….

Isaiah 44:24

Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and He that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself…

Isaiah 43:10,11

10) Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen; that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me…

11) I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no Saviour…

In the book of Exodus:

Exodus 3:14

14) And god said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM; and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you

Jesus Christ also said this in the book of Revelations:

Revelations 1:8

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty….

God, (Jesus Christ) is the I AM of the Old Testament as well as the New Testament..

There are religions out there that say, baptism is not necessary for salvation, however, as you can see, it is a commandment from Jesus Christ himself….

Some religions out there teach that Repentence isn’t necessary for salvation, however, the word of God says different…

In the book of:

Luke 13:3

3) I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish…

Luke 15:7

7) I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentence….

There are actually people and religions out there that say that it is okay to worship a tree or the moon, the sun, an animal, a statue, the virgin Mary, ect, that it does not matter because it is God…Well, I have read, that God is a jealous God and that there is only one God…There are millions being mislead today by false preachers, false prophets, and false teachers whom have gotten away from the true word of God and come up with their own doctrine…If we worship anything other than God, it is idolatry, anything….

These are but a few scriptures from the word of God…They are not what I have written, they are not what my Pastor has written, but the pure word of God as God meant it to be…

Don’t let man lie to you, read the bible for yourself, get you a Strong’s concordance to help you understand Hebrew and Greek words because the bible was not written in English, it was translated in our language so that we might understand what God commanded us to do….

Well, there is no good right way to stop this post because there is so much to read and to write, I do not claim to know all about God, any man claims that he knows everything about God, you should run from them as fast as you can because their after your money and don’t care about your soul….

Truthbear

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HELLO EVERYBODY;

I done some research on the history of the King James Bible and came across this information…It explains in detail about any changes or what some people call revisions to the King James Version of the bible….It is rather lengthy, however, it is worth reading….

QUESTION: Haven’t there been several revisions of the King James Bible since 1611?
ANSWER: No. There have been several editions but no revisions.

EXPLANATION: One of the last ditch defenses of a badly shaken critic of the Authorized Version 1611 is the “revision hoax.” They run to this seeming fortress in an attempt to stave off ultimate defeat by their opponents who overwhelm their feeble arguments with historic facts, manuscript evidence and to obvious workings of the Holy Spirit. Once inside, they turn self-confidently to their foes and ask with a smug look, “Which King James do you use, the 1611 or the 1629 or perhaps the 1769?” The shock of this attack and the momentary confusion that results usually allows them time to make good their escape.

THE KING JAMES VERSION OF 1611
THE MYTH OF EARLY REVISIONS

Introduction
Men have been “handling the word of God deceitfully” (II Cor. 4:2) ever since the devil first taught Eve how. From Cain to Balaam, from Jehudi to the scribes and Pharisees, from the Dark Age theologians to present-day scholars, the living words of the Almighty God have been prime targets for man’s corrupting hand. The attacks on the Word of God are threefold: addition, subtraction, and substitution. From Adam’s day to the computer age, the strategies have remained the same. There is nothing new under the sun.

One attack which is receiving quite a bit of attention these days is a direct attack on the Word of God as preserved in the English language: the King James Version of 1611. The attack referred to is the myth which claims that since the King James Version has already been revised four times, there should be and can be no valid objection to other revisions. This myth was used by the English Revisers of 1881 and has been revived in recent years by Fundamentalist scholars hoping to sell their latest translation. This book is given as an answer to this attack. The purpose of the material is not to convince those who would deny this preservation but to strengthen the faith of those who already believe in a preserved English Bible.

One major question often arises in any attack such as this. How far should we go in answering the critics? If we were to attempt to answer every shallow objection to the infallibility of the English Bible, we would never be able to accomplish anything else. Sanity must prevail somewhere. As always, the answer is in God’s Word. Proverbs 26:4-5 states: Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

Obviously, there are times when a foolish query should be ignored and times when it should be met with an answer. If to answer the attack will make you look as foolish as the attacker, then the best answer is to ignore the question. For instance, if you are told that the Bible cannot be infallible because so-and-so believes that it is, and he is divorced, then you may safely assume that silence is the best answer. On the other hand, there are often questions and problems that, if true, would be serious. To ignore these issues would be to leave the Bible attacker wise in his own conceit. I believe that the question of revisions to the King James Version of 1611 is a question of the second class. If the King James Version has undergone four major revisions of its text, then to oppose further revisions on the basis of an established English text would truly be faulty. For this reason, this attack should and must be answered. Can the argument be answered? Certainly! That is the purpose of this book.

I – THE PRINTING CONDITIONS OF 1611

If God did preserve His Word in the English language through the Authorized Version of 1611 (and He did), then where is our authority for the infallible wording? Is it in the notes of the translators? Or is it to be found in the proof copy sent to the printers? If so, then our authority is lost because these papers are lost. But, you say, the authority is in the first copy which came off the printing press. Alas, that copy has also certainly perished. In fact, if the printing of the English Bible followed the pattern of most printing jobs, the first copy was probably discarded because of bad quality. That leaves us with existing copies of the first printing. They are the ones often pointed out as the standard by which all other King James Bibles are to be compared. But are they? Can those early printers of the first edition not be allowed to make printing errors? We need to establish one thing from the outset. The authority for our preserved English text is not found in any human work. The authority for our preserved and infallible English text is in God! Printers may foul up at times and humans will still make plenty of errors, but God in His power and mercy will preserve His text despite the weaknesses of fallible man. Now, let us look at the pressures on a printer in the year of 1611.

Although the printing press had been invented in 1450 by Johann Gutenburg in Germany (161 years before the 1611 printing), the equipment used by the printer had changed very little. Printing was still very slow and difficult. All type was set by hand, one piece at a time (that’s one piece at a time through the whole Bible), and errors were an expected part of any completed book. Because of this difficulty and also because the 1611 printers had no earlier editions from which to profit, the very first edition of the King James Version had a number of printing errors. As shall later be demonstrated, these were not the sort of textual alterations which are freely made in modern bibles. They were simple, obvious printing errors of the sort that can still be found at times in recent editions even with all of the advantages of modem printing. These errors do not render a Bible useless, but they should be corrected in later editions.

The two original printings of the Authorized Version demonstrate the difficulty of printing in 1611 without making mistakes. Both editions were printed in Oxford. Both were printed in the same year: 1611. The same printers did both jobs. Most likely, both editions were printed on the same printing press. Yet, in a strict comparison of the two editions, approximately 100 textual differences can be found. In the same vein the King James critics can find only about 400 alleged textual alterations in the King James Version after 375 years of printing and four so-called revisions! Something is rotten in Scholarsville! The time has come to examine these revisions.”

11 – THE FOUR SO-CALLED REVISIONS
OF THE 1611 KJV

Much of the information in this section is taken from a book by F.H.A. Scrivener called The Authorized Edition of the English Bible (1611), Its Subsequent Reprints and Modern Representatives. The book is as pedantic as its title indicates. The interesting point is that Scrivener, who published this book in 1884, was a member of the Revision Committee of 1881. He was not a King James Bible believer, and therefore his material is not biased toward the Authorized Version.

In the section of Scrivener’s book dealing with the KJV “revisions,” one initial detail is striking. The first two so-called major revisions of the King James Bible occurred within 27 years of the original printing. (The language must have been changing very rapidly in those days.) The 1629 edition of the Bible printed in Cambridge is said to have been the first revision. A revision it was not, but simply a careful correction of earlier printing errors. Not only was this edition completed just eighteen years after the translation, but two of the men who participated in this printing, Dr. Samuel Ward and John Bois, had worked on the original translation of the King James Version. Who better to correct early errors than two who had worked on the original translation! Only nine years later and in Cambridge again, another edition came out which is supposed to have been the second major revision. Both Ward and Bois were still alive, but it is not known if they participated at this time. But even Scrivener, who as you remember worked on the English Revised Version of 1881, admitted that the Cambridge printers had simply reinstated words and clauses overlooked by the 1611 printers and amended manifest errors. According to a study which will be detailed later, 72% of the approximately 400 textual corrections in the KJV were completed by the time of the 1638 Cambridge edition, only 27 years after the original printing!

Just as the first two so-called revisions were actually two stages of one process: the purification of early printing errors, so the last two so-called revisions were two stages in another process: the standardization of the spelling, These two editions were only seven years apart (1762 and 1769) with the second one completing what the first had started. But when the scholars are numbering revisions, two sounds better than one. Very few textual corrections were necessary at this time. The thousands of alleged changes are spelling changes made to match the established correct forms. These spelling changes will be discussed later. Suffice it to say at this time that the tale of four major revisions is truly a fraud and a myth. But you say, there are still changes whether they be few or many. What are you going to do with the changes that are still there? Let us now examine the character of these changes.

III – THE SO-CALLED THOUSANDS
OF CHANGES

Suppose someone were to take you to a museum to see an original copy of the King James Version. You come to the glass case where the Bible is displayed and look down at the opened Bible through the glass. Although you are not allowed to flip through its pages, you can readily tell that there are some very different things about this Bible from the one you own. You can hardly read its words, and those you can make out are spelled in odd and strange ways. Like others before you, you leave with the impression that the King James Version has undergone a multitude of changes since its original printing in 1611. But beware, you have just been taken by a very clever ploy. The differences you saw are not what they seem to be. Let’s examine the evidence.

Printing Changes
For proper examination, the changes can be divided into three kinds: printing changes, spelling changes, and textual changes. Printing changes will be considered first. The type style used in 1611 by the KJV translators was the Gothic Type Style. The type style you are reading right now and are familiar with is Roman Type. Gothic Type is sometimes called Germanic because it originated in Germany. Remember, that is where printing was invented. The Gothic letters were formed to resemble the hand-drawn manuscript lettering of the Middle Ages. At first, it was the only style in use. The Roman Type Style was invented fairly early, but many years passed before it became the predominate style in most European countries. Gothic continued to be used in Germany until recent years. In 1611 in England, Roman Type was already very popular and would soon supersede the Gothic. However, the original printers chose the Gothic Style for the KJV because it was considered to be more beautiful and eloquent than the Roman. But the change to Roman Type was not long in coming. In 1612, the first King James Version using Roman Type was printed. Within a few years, all the bibles printed used the Roman Type Style.

Please realize that a change in type style no more alters the text of the Bible than a change in format or type size does. However, the modem reader who has not become familiar with Gothic can find it very difficult to understand. Besides some general change in form, several specific letter changes need to be observed. For instance, the Gothic s looks like the Roman s when used as a capital letter or at the end of a word. But when it is used as a lower case s at the beginning or in the middle of a word, the letter looks like our f. Therefore, also becomes alfo and set becomes fet. Another variation is found in the German v and u. The Gothic v looks like a Roman u while the Gothic u looks like the Roman v. This explains why our w is called a double-u and not a double-v. Sound confusing? It is until you get used to it. In the 1611 edition, love is loue, us is vs, and ever is euer. But remember, these are not even spelling changes. They are simply type style changes. In another instance, the Gothic j looks like our i. So Jesus becomes Iefus (notice the middle s changed to f) and joy becomes ioy. Even the Gothic d with the stem leaning back over the circle in a shape resembling that of the Greek Delta. These changes account for a large percentage of the “thousands” of changes in the KJV, yet they do no harm whatsoever to the text. They are nothing more than a smokescreen set up by the attackers of our English Bible.

Spelling Changes
Another kind of change found in the history of the Authorized Version are changes of orthography or spelling. Most histories date the beginning of Modern English around the year 1500. Therefore, by 1611 the grammatical structure and basic vocabulary of present-day English had long been established. However, the spelling did not stabilize at the same time. In the 1600’s spelling was according to whim. There was no such thing as correct spelling. No standards had been established. An author often spelled the same word several different ways, often in the same book and sometimes on the same page. And these were the educated people. Some of you reading this today would have found the 1600’s a spelling paradise. Not until the eighteenth century did the spelling begin to take a stable form. Therefore, in the last half of the eighteenth century, the spelling of the King James Version of 1611 was standardized.

What kind of spelling variations can you expect to find between your present edition and the 1611 printing? Although every spelling difference cannot be categorized, several characteristics are very common. Additional e’s were often found at the end of the words such as feare, darke, and beare. Also, double vowels were much more common than they are today. You would find ee, bee, and mooued instead of me, be, and moved. Double consonants were also much more common. What would ranne, euill, and ftarres be according to present-day spelling? See if you can figure them out. The present-day spellings would be ran, evil, and stars. These typographical and spelling changes account for almost all of the so-called thousands of changes in the King James Bible. None of them alter the text in any way. Therefore they cannot be honestly compared with thousands of true textual changes which are blatantly made in the modern versions.

Textual Changes
Almost all of the alleged changes have been accounted for. We now come to the question of actual textual differences between our present editions and that of 1611. There are some differences between the two, but they are not the changes of a revision. They are instead the correction of early printing errors. That this is a fact may be seen in three things: (1) the character of the changes, (2) the frequency of the changes throughout the Bible, and (3) the time the changes were made. First, let us look at the character of the changes made from the time of the first printing of the Authorized English Bible.

The changes from the 1611 edition that are admittedly textual are obviously printing errors because of the nature of these changes. They are not textual changes made to alter the reading. In the first printing, words were sometimes inverted. Sometimes a plural was written as singular or visa versa. At times a word was miswritten for one that was similar. A few times a word or even a phrase was omitted. The omissions were obvious and did not have the doctrinal implications of those found in modern translations. In fact, there is really no comparison between the corrections made in the King James text and those proposed by the scholars of today.

F.H.A. Scrivener, in the appendix of his book, lists the variations between the 1611 edition of the KJV and later printings. A sampling of these corrections is given below. In order to be objective, the samples give the first textual correction on consecutive left hand pages of Scrivener’s book. The 1611 reading is given first; then the present reading; and finally, the date the correction was first made.

1 this thing – this thing also (1638)
2 shalt have remained – ye shall have remained (1762)
3 Achzib, nor Helbath, nor Aphik – of Achzib, nor of Helbath, nor of Aphik (1762)
4 requite good – requite me good (1629)
5 this book of the Covenant – the book of this covenant (1629)
6 chief rulers – chief ruler (1629)
7 And Parbar – At Parbar (1638)
8 For this cause – And for this cause (1638)
9 For the king had appointed – for so the king had appointed (1629)
10 Seek good – seek God (1617)
11 The cormorant – But the cormorant (1629)
12 returned – turned (1769)
13 a fiery furnace – a burning fiery furnace (1638)
14 The crowned – Thy crowned (1629)
15 thy right doeth – thy right hand doeth (1613)
16 the wayes side – the way side (1743)
17 which was a Jew – which was a Jewess (1629)
18 the city – the city of the Damascenes (1629)
19 now and ever – both now and ever (1638)
20 which was of our father’s – which was our fathers (1616)

Before your eyes are 5% of the textual changes made in the King James Version in 375 years. Even if they were not corrections of previous errors, they would be of no comparison to modem alterations. But they are corrections of printing errors, and therefore no comparison is at all possible. Look at the list for yourself and you will find only one that has serious doctrinal implications. In fact, in an examination of Scrivener’s entire appendix, it is the only variation found by this author that could be accused of being doctrinal. I am referring to Psalm 69:32 where the 1611 edition has “seek good” when the Bible should have read “seek God.” Yet, even with this error, two points demonstrate that this was indeed a printing error. First, the similarity of the words “good” and “God” in spelling shows how easily a weary type setter could misread the proof and put the wrong word in the text. Second, this error was so obvious that it was caught and corrected in the year 1617, only six years after the original printing and well before the first so-called revision. The myth that there are several major revisions to the 1611 KJV should be getting clearer. But there is more.

Not only does the character of the changes show them to be printing errors, so does their frequency. Fundamentalist scholars refer to the thousands of revisions made to the 1611 as if they were on a par with the recent bible versions. They are not. The overwhelming majority of them are either type style or spelling changes. The few which do remain are clearly corrections of printing errors made because of the tediousness involved in the early printing process. The sample list given above will demonstrate just how careful Scrivener was in listing all the variations. Yet, even with this great care, only approximately 400 variations are named between the 1611 edition and modern copies. Remember that there were 100 variations between the first two Oxford editions which were both printed in 1611. Since there are almost 1200 chapters in the Bible, the average variation per chapter (after 375 years) is one third, i.e., one correction per every three chapters. These are changes such as “chief rulers” to “chief ruler” and “And Parbar” to “At Parbar.” But there is yet one more evidence that these variations are simply corrected printing errors: the early date at which they were corrected.

The character and frequency of the textual changes clearly
separate them from modern alterations. But the time the changes were made settles the issue absolutely. The great majority of the 400 corrections were made within a few years of the original printing. Take, for example, our earlier sampling. Of the twenty corrections listed, one was made in 1613, one in 1616, one in 1617, eight in 1629, five in 1638, one in 1743, two in 1762, and one in 1769. That means that 16 out of 20 corrections, or 80%, were made within twenty-seven years of the 1611 printing. That is hardly the long drawn out series of revisions the scholars would have you to believe. In another study made by examining every other page of Scrivener’s appendix in detail, 72% of the textual corrections were made by 1638. There is no “revision” issue.

The character of the textual changes is that of obvious errors. The frequency of the textual changes is sparse, occurring only once per three chapters. The chronology of the textual changes is early with about three fourths of them occurring within twenty-seven years of the first printing. All of these details establish the fact that there were no true revisions in the sense of updating the language or correcting translation errors. There were only editions which corrected early typographical errors. Our source of authority for the exact wording of the 1611 Authorized Version is not in the existing copies of the first printing. Our source of authority for the exact wording of our English Bible is in the preserving power of Almighty God. Just as God did not leave us the original autographs to fight and squabble over, so He did not see fit to leave us the proof copy of the translation. Our authority is in the hand of God as always. You can praise the Lord for that!

IV – CHANGES IN THE BOOK OF ECCLESIASTES

An in-depth study of the changes made in the book of Ecclesiastes would help to illustrate the principles stated above. The author is grateful to Dr. David Reese of Millbrook, Alabama, for his work in this area. By comparing a 1611 reprint of the original edition put out by Thomas Nelson & Sons with recent printing of the King James Version, Dr. Reese was able to locate four variations in the book of Ecclesiastes. The reference is given first; then the text of the Thomas Nelson 1611 reprint. This is followed by the reading of the present editions of the 1611 KJV and the date the change was made.

1 1:5 the place – his place (1638)
2 2:16 shall be – shall all be (1629)
3 8:17 out, yea further – out, yet he shall not find it; yea farther (1629)
4 11: 17 thing is it – thing it is (?)

Several things should be noted about these changes. The last variation (“thing is it” to “thing it is”) is not mentioned by Scrivener who was a very careful and accurate scholar. Therefore, this change may be a misprint in the Thomas Nelson reprint. That would be interesting. The corrected omission in chapter eight is one of the longest corrections of the original printing. But notice that it was corrected in 1629. The frequency of printing errors is average (four errors in twelve chapters). But the most outstanding fact is that the entire book of Ecclesiastes reads exactly like our present editions without even printing errors by the year 1638. That’s approximately 350 years ago. By that time, the Bible was being printed in Roman type.

Therefore, all (and I mean all) that has changed in 350 years in the book of Ecclesiastes is that the spelling has been standardized! As stated before, the main purpose of the 1629 and 1638 Cambridge editions was the correction of earlier printing errors. And the main purpose of the 1762 and 1769 editions was the standardization of spelling.

V – THE SO-CALLED JUSTIFICATION
FOR OTHER REVISIONS

Maybe now you see that the King James Version of 1611 has not been revised but only corrected. But why does it make that much difference? Although there are several reasons why this issue is important, the most pressing one is that fundamentalist scholars are using this myth of past revisions to justify their own tampering with the text. The editors of the New King James Version have probably been the worst in recent years to use this propaganda ploy. In the preface of the New King James they have stated, “For nearly four hundred years, and throughout several revisions of its English form, the King James Bible has been deeply revered among the English-speaking peoples of the world. “In the midst of their flowery rhetoric, they strongly imply that their edition is only a continuation of the revisions that have been going on for the past 375 years. This implication, which has been stated directly by others, could not be more false. To prove this point, we will go back to the book of Ecclesiastes.

An examination of the first chapter in Ecclesiastes in the New King James Version reveals approximately 50 changes from our present edition. In order to be fair, spelling changes (cometh to comes; labour to labor; etc.) were not included in this count. That means there are probably about 600 alterations in the book of Ecclesiastes and approximately 60,000 changes in the entire Bible. If you accuse me of including every recognizable change, you are correct. But I am only counting the sort of changes which were identified in analyzing the 1611 King James. That’s only fair. Still, the number of changes is especially baffling for a version which claims to be an updating in the same vein as earlier revisions. According to the fundamentalist scholar, the New King James is only a fifth in a series of revisions. Then pray tell me how four “revisions” and 375 years brought only 400 changes while the fifth revision brought about 60,000 additional changes? That means that the fifth revision made 150 times more changes than the total number of changes in the first four! That’s preposterous!

Not only is the frequency of the changes unbelievable, but the character of the alterations are serious. Although many of the alterations seem harmless enough at first glance, many are much more serious. The editors of the New King James Version were sly enough not to alter the most serious blunders of the modern bibles. Yet, they were not afraid to change the reading in those places that are unfamiliar to the average fundamentalist. In these areas, the New King James Version is dangerous. Below are some of the more harmful alterations made in the book of Ecclesiastes. The reference is given first; then the reading as found in the King James Version; and last, the reading as found in the New King James Version.

1:13 sore travail; grievous task
1:14 vexation of spirit; grasping for the wind
1:16 my heart had great experience of wisdom; My heart has understood great wisdom
2:3 to give myself unto; to gratify my flesh with
2:3 acquainting; guiding
2:21 equity; skill
3:10 the travail, which God hath given; the God-given task
3:11 the world; eternity
3:18 that God might manifest them; God tests them
3:18 they themselves are beasts; they themselves are like beasts
3:22 portion; heritage
4:4 right work; skillful work
5:1 Keep thy foot; Walk prudently
5:6 the angel; the messenger of God
5:6 thy voice; your excuse
5:8 he that is higher than the highest; high official
5:20 God answereth him; God keeps him busy
6:3 untimely birth; stillborn child
7:29 inventions; schemes
8:1 boldness; sterness
8:10 the place of the holy; the place of holiness
10:1 Dead flies cause the ointment of the apothecary to send forth a stinking savour; Dead flies putrefy the perfumer’s ointment
10:10 If the iron be blunt; If the ax is dull
10:10 wisdom is profitable to direct; wisdom brings success
12:9 gave good heed; pondered
12:11 the masters of assemblies; scholars

This is only a sampling of the changes in the book, but notice what is done. Equity, which is a trait of godliness, becomes skill (2:21). The world becomes eternity (3:11). Man without God is no longer a beast but just like a beast (3:18). The clear reference to deity in Ecclesiastes 5:8 (“he that is higher than the highest”) is successfully removed (“higher official”). But since success is what wisdom is supposed to bring us (10: 10), this must be progress. At least God is keeping the scholars busy (5:20). Probably the most revealing of the above mentioned changes is the last one listed where “the masters of assemblies” become “scholars.” According to the New King James, “the words of scholars are like well-driven nails, given by one Shepherd.” The masters of assemblies are replaced by the scholars who become the source of the Shepherd’s words. That is what these scholars would like us to think, but it is not true.

In conclusion, the New King James is not a revision in the vein of former revisions of the King James Version. It is instead an entirely new translation. As stated in the introduction, the purpose of this book is not to convince those who use the other versions. The purpose of this book is to expose a fallacious argument that has been circulating in fundamentalist circles for what it is: an overblown myth. That is, the myth that the New King James Version and others like it are nothing more than a continuation of revisions which have periodically been made to the King James Version since 1611. There is one problem with this theory. There are no such revisions.

The King James Bible of 1611 has not undergone four (or any) major revisions. Therefore, the New King James Version is not a continuation of what has gone on before. It should in fact be called the Thomas Nelson Version. They hold the copyright. The King James Version we have today has not been revised but purified. We still have no reason to doubt that the Bible we hold in our hands is the very word of God preserved for us in the English language. The authority for its veracity lies not in the first printing of the King James Version in 1611, or in the character of King James 1, or in the scholarship of the 1611 translators, or in the literary accomplishments of Elizabethan England, or even in the Greek Received Text. Our authority for the infallible words of the English Bible lies in the power and promise of God to preserve His Word! God has the power. We have His Word.

I hope and pray that this will help you understand about the King James Version of the bible, it has not be altered (revised)….

“HELL IS REAL; LAKE-OF-FIRE IS REAL”!!!

Hello everyone;

I am writing about a place today that no man should want to go, “Hell”…Hell was not designed for man, hell was designed for satan, the beast, the false prophets…

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshiped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

It’s sad to say that there are some out there that do not believe hell is real, some don’t believe God is real, that the devil is real, some think the bible is nothing more than a book full of writings to scare people…Some people out there believe that Christ died on the Cross for our sins and there saved no matter what they do in there life…The problem with that kind of thinking is, that it will get you to hell, because God gave us strict instructions as to what we must do in order to be able to enter into heaven (The kingdom of God)…

It is true that God came to earth and manifest his self in the flesh (Jesus Christ is his name) and made him self a sacrifice for us to save us from our sins…However, the Lord also gave us a set of instructions, if you please, to live by, to guide us through this life, and if we do not abide by his laws and his commandments and become obedient children, well then, we will not being going to his kingdom in heaven…God demands obedience, if you have read the bible you would know this, and you know, God really doesn’t ask that much out of his children….Let me ask you a question, do you believe that the bible is the inspired written word of God, the only truth out there?

Before you answer that, I realize that there are bibles out there that people are reading that have been altered, some have been added to the word, and some have taken away from the word of God, which would be contrary unto the word of God….As it is written in the book of:

Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

The NIV bible is a classic example of a bible that has been altered, for instance, there are scriptures that have been completely taken out of the bible, scriptures altered to have different meanings that what God intended for us…So, let’s take a look at what the word of God has to say about hell and the lake-of-fire…(I read from the King James Version of the bible, it is the closest to the original Hebrew and Greek writings)…And yes, there are people out there that say the King James Version has been altered, but I have something to say about that also at a later time)…In the book of:

Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Deu 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

2Sa 22:6 The sorrows of hell compassed me about; the snares of death prevented me;

Psa 18:5 The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of death prevented me.

Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Psa 55:15 Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.

Psa 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.

Pro 5:5 Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.

Pro 7:27 Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.

Pro 9:18 But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell.

Pro 15:11 Hell and destruction are before the LORD: how much more then the hearts of the children of men?

Pro 15:24 The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.

Pro 23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

Pro 27:20 Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.

Isa 14:9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

Isa 28:15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

Isa 28:18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

Eze 31:16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth.

Eze 31:17 They also went down into hell with him unto them that be slain with the sword; and they that were his arm, that dwelt under his shadow in the midst of the heathen.

Eze 32:21 The strong among the mighty shall speak to him out of the midst of hell with them that help him: they are gone down, they lie uncircumcised, slain by the sword.

Amo 9:2 Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down:

Hab 2:5 Yea also, because he transgresseth by wine, he is a proud man, neither keepeth at home, who enlargeth his desire as hell, and is as death, and cannot be satisfied, but gathereth unto him all nations, and heapeth unto him all people:

Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Mat 11:23 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.

Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Luk 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Luk 10:15 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell.

Mar 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Luk 16:23 And in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

Jas 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity; so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

2Pe 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

Rev 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive forevermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever

Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshiped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Jud 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.

1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

1Co 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

1Co 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

1Co 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.

If you truly believe the word of God, then you should believe that there is a hell and there is a lake-of-fire….Friends, heaven is real, hell is real, God is real, and the devil is also real…The bible is the only truth out there, which is the gospel of Jesus Christ…Don’t be fooled by cheap imitations, don’t fall for some watered down version of the word of God….There is One Lord, One faith, and One Baptism….Have faith in the one true God, Jesus Christ, believe the gospel…Anything contrary unto the word of God is of the antichrist….